Vanor 21 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 So been playing with this build though Egypt, started with it about half way though Scorched Desert have been using it since, I'm now part way though the City of the Sun God. So far it's been very effective. I just mow though stuff with hardly taking a break. Seems effective vs single mobs and swarms. Looking for any feedback on it, and perhaps some ideas on what to build towards. Actives1. Escalation2. Dancing Blade3. Pulling the Strings4. Karma5. Chop Shop6. Martial Discipline7. Domino Effect8. EmptyPassives1. Immortal Spirit2. Intensity3. Gnosis4. Breakdown5. Expose Weakness6. Regeneration7. Fluid Defence8. Empty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pclav 33 Report post Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Actives1. Escalation2. Dancing Blade3. Pulling the Strings4. Karma5. Chop Shop6. Martial Discipline7. Domino Effect8. EmptyAd 1) Swap to Blade TorrentAd 2) It's great when combined with Elemental Force, if you want a single target blade consumer check out Destiny. I'd free up this slotAd 3) why not 4 HorsemanAd 4) damage is lower then the usual AoE consumer and the heal part is very very low, not worth it, I'd free up the slotAd 5) Chop Shop, all multi hit attacks suffer an internal hidden negative pen and crit modifier, same as dancing blade - great with EF, otherwise I'd change it to Clearing the PathAd 6) kay Ad 7) kay Passives1. Immortal Spirit2. Intensity3. Gnosis4. Breakdown5. Expose Weakness6. Regeneration7. Fluid Defence8. EmptyAd 1) kayAd 2) Swap to Blade Torrent to afflictAd 3) Swap to Sudden Return, with a better upkeep of minor pen chance this will trigger enoughAd 4) kayAd 5) This one is just meh, you can use it only once every 30s, swap to iron Maiden for more upkeepAd 6) You got only 1 passive heal, so this is ok. You may try to swap this to a dps passive like Twist the Knife and get Turn the Tables as an additional heal in actives. Eventually I'd swap this to Leeching Frenzy.Ad 7) kay For the 2 actives you got left I'd probably pick Turn the Tables and Chaotic Pull or Steel Echo. Or if you liked your fast exposed stacking then Discord Rising. Edited June 27, 2015 by Pclav 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanor 21 Report post Posted June 29, 2015 Thanks, I'm trying some of the changes you mentioned and working to get the AP for some of those powers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Escritores 71 Report post Posted July 14, 2015 Ad 4) damage is lower then the usual AoE consumer and the heal part is very very low, not worth it, I'd free up the slot What other Chaos AOE consumer would you use? There's basicly no alternative and the damage really isn't that bad... The heal is definitely neglectable but nah it ain't that bad at all, especially for soloing vs. having only AOE consumer for 1 weapon... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pclav 33 Report post Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) For the 2 actives you got left I'd probably pick Turn the Tables and Chaotic Pull or Steel Echo. Or if you liked your fast exposed stacking then Discord Rising. Between CtP and BT you'll be ok with 1 AoE consumer for solo. Edited July 14, 2015 by Pclav 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Escritores 71 Report post Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Between CtP and BT you'll be ok with 1 AoE consumer for solo.Meeh... I prefer having 2... Most if not all of my solo builds do 1 builder, 2 aoe consumers, 1 singletarget consumer, 3 whatever stuffz, just makes killing packs so much more efficient... Basicly things like chaotic pull is never needed while soloing and the damage on it is terrible, turn the tables is a complete waste of a active if you're above ql 3, steel echo is debateable I'll give you that one... Edited July 14, 2015 by Escritores 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ciritty 169 Report post Posted July 14, 2015 Meeh... I prefer having 2... Most if not all of my solo builds do 1 builder, 2 aoe consumers, 1 singletarget consumer, 3 whatever stuffz, just makes killing packs so much more efficient... Basicly things like chaotic pull is never needed while soloing and the damage on it is terrible, turn the tables is a complete waste of a active if you're above ql 3, steel echo is debateable I'll give you that one... What I find is that when I give people builds with multiple consumers they'll just use the AoE consumers on single targets anyway, so I tend to not suggest multiple consumers personally! However sound your reasoning is 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pclav 33 Report post Posted July 14, 2015 Meeh... I prefer having 2... Most if not all of my solo builds do 1 builder, 2 aoe consumers, 1 singletarget consumer, 3 whatever stuffz, just makes killing packs so much more efficient... Basicly things like chaotic pull is never needed while soloing and the damage on it is terrible, turn the tables is a complete waste of a active if you're above ql 3, steel echo is debateable I'll give you that one... The damage on CP is terrible, but it's easier to use then HS for beginner players and this deck could use an impair. I used Turn the Tables deep into Trans, it's still decent even after the nerf. Once you can slot a mending 5 somewhere it's not that great, but that's a bit too much for most people on this forum. SE rather sucks, but not as much as Armor Fati for PvM and having a damage buff is almost always a good idea. The sneaky part of what I wrote is that those are options from which you choose what you like for your playstyle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Escritores 71 Report post Posted July 14, 2015 The damage on CP is terrible, but it's easier to use then HS for beginner players and this deck could use an impair. I used Turn the Tables deep into Trans, it's still decent even after the nerf. Once you can slot a mending 5 somewhere it's not that great, but that's a bit too much for most people on this forum. SE rather sucks, but not as much as Armor Fati for PvM and having a damage buff is almost always a good idea. The sneaky part of what I wrote is that those are options from which you choose what you like for your playstyle. TtT heal is just so incredibly low and the CD is so incredibly long it's not really worth it other than at low qls compared to what else you could use for healing/defensive measures... Hehe... I know... Don't get me wrong, basicly just wanted to point out Karma isn't as bad as people often point out in a chaos/blade solo deck due to missing alternatives... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ciritty 169 Report post Posted July 14, 2015 TtT heal is just so incredibly low and the CD is so incredibly long it's not really worth it other than at low qls compared to what else you could use for healing/defensive measures... Hehe... I know... Don't get me wrong, basicly just wanted to point out Karma isn't as bad as people often point out in a chaos/blade solo deck due to missing alternatives... Maelstrom does slightly more dmg and cry havoc is ranged! but yes ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
